Be fearless in the pursuit of

what sets your soul on fire. 

The power of meeting the right people is something Sarai has realized in her pursuit of learning from the best in the barrel racing industry. Today, we sat down to go over the reasons you should put yourself out there, ask for help in a way that shows your determination and fearless attitude towards being a better trainer and rider. 

Internships are something we both have in common and we touched on how and why they help! For the better or for worse, we learn through those experiences and we have a lot to share!

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I think the more you can study the people who are better than you study with the winners, you’re doing ask some questions, talk with them, you know, sit with the winners, like people say. You’re definitely going to exponentially increase your ability to do well. I’m Shelby Olyschlager. This is we can hustle and we are barrel racers. Join us on our journey to personal growth for us and our horses together, we can hustle. Welcome everybody to another episode of the weekend hustle podcast. Today, I have my super exciting guests here as Sarah is here with us, AKA countryole, which kind of funny that we only really met on Instagram. And we’ve talked a bunch of times and kind of got to know each other a little bit. And that’s why I was really excited to have you on because you’re pretty much kind of living part of my dream right now.

So if you’d like, please give us an introduction and tell us what you’re doing and just all the good details. Totally. So, hi guys, my name’s Sarah Angelle. I am from Texas down here in the central Texas area. And for most of my life, I have been a barrel racer, I guess you’d say. And I’ve spent probably the last five years or so really working towards being able to do it as a career. Um, so that’s kind of where I’m at right now. So, you’ve been working along and doing a lot of internships. Can you tell us a bit about that? Like just the experience you’ve had in like every place you’ve been to, cause you said been doing it for about five years. So how as that whole experience has that been for you? So first of all, like interning is such a rewarding and humbling thing.

You, a lot of times when I get asked, what can I do to be better? Or what can I do to learn more? My first response is to tell them, go ride with someone, you know, go find someone who knows more than you, whether that’s barrel horse trainer or cold starter or raining calibers guy, anybody who has more knowledge than you do, we’ll be able to teach you a phenomenal amount about riding horses. So, you know, I tried to practice what I was preaching essentially in college. My very first internship was with Brandon and Bo Kellogg and Bo and Randa they’re actually origin m Florida and Bo had one quite a bit at the futurity stuff. I spent about a year and a half with them and learned a lot. And after I got done with school, I came home. And for a while, you know, I tried to do the real job thing.

Like a lot of us have to do, you know, adult responsibilities. Um, and I kept going back to the horses and I finally asked myself, you know, what do you need to do to make this a reality and not just something you do on the weekends. And I took a leap of faith and decided that I was going to go work for joy Wargo. I had attended one of her clinics in South Texas and had found out she was looking for work and I took a leap of faith because at the time I had a great job with the state. I wasn’t thinking about leaving, but I asked her “can I apply?” And she’s like, yeah, send me your resume. So that was a really unique experience. I drove up there to interview with her following weekend and her and her husband hired me on the spot.

So it was really, really cool. I spent a year and a half there. And now I’m back here in the central Texas area writing for Janet Staton, who has been a mentor of mine for years. She’s actually the reason I probably got the job with joy because she recommended me. And it’s kind of been an interesting time right now because we’ve had some unusual circumstances pop up and Janet injured herself at one of our races and I’ve had to jump on a couple for her. So that’s been pretty exciting and rewarding to do. Um, but yeah, like all this, all this time, I’ve been trying to work to be better and ride under these trainers that know more than I do and seek knowledge because I really think that’s the only way you can get.

Absolutely. I love that so much. And you said a few things that I’ve told myself and I just like, exactly, like just preach it out. Is that like I read a quote once where it kind of said, you know, you don’t ask someone for directions that has never been where you want to go. And interning is such a good outlet to get completely involved in that world in work, alongside and with people that are getting where you want to go. And it’s like, you know, your goals and for you, it’s like, you really want to make it your thing. Like you want to not work and you want riding and training horses to be your goal. So it’s like, you’re putting yourself on the right path to get there. And it’s just like, it’s so obviously necessary. But you know, like I’ve already found some people that are like, Oh, cause I did an intern for one summer and it was such a amazing experience.

And I was so sad to be done because it was like going back to reality. And then if I want to go again, I have to like remake that plan for myself. Like, you know, like quit the job, get that one way ticket and just go do it. And people are like, Oh, I’m so jealous. I wish I could do that. Like, how are you able to do that? And I’m like, I just made it happen. Like it’s not easy. And like you said, like it was a tough decision I’m sure. But looking back, I’m sure. In retrospect, like you’re so glad like you have, and even right now, like, so you went to Fort Smith. I was like so excited for you. Cause you were saying like that Janet hurt herself and you dumped ride some of her horses. So can you tell us a bit about that experience? Definitely. Um,

I will say just like you said, you know, people ask you, you know, how do you do it? How do you go off and do all that to just to capitalize on that too real quick. I have to add that sometimes the internship deals are, they’re hard. They’re hard on you physically. They’re hard on you emotionally. Um, but it helps a lot when you have great people to work for. And I was really fortunate, like all the time I got to spend with Brandon and Bo and all the time I got to spend a like joy and her husband Trent, cause they treated me so well. Um, and all the time I’m getting to spend now with Janet and her husband, Doug stay in. So I just want to make sure I mentioned, make sure that you are working for good people and you deserve to be treated with respect.

And don’t forget that if you’re out there looking for something, but back to your question about Fort Smith. Um, so I guess I’ll start in Guthrie at the lady at the stallion stakes, it was round two of the futurity there and Janet was on her second to last horse. I think we had, we had four entered that one and she ran into the first barrel and I, the horses, she did it on as the one that I’ve been doing good on for the last couple of weeks. His name is topper. He’s like 16 to probably weighs 1300 pounds.

I think he just set really hard to turn. And she had already had some, a strain going on with her groin and he just set to turn and it got it. The rest of the way he, like she said, it was all she could do to hang on the rest of their end. And when she didn’t come outside to meet me was their last horse. I knew something was wrong. I got inside and she couldn’t walk. So that was a great experience because in that moment, like I didn’t have a hat or, or anything to get on the next mayor. So Ryan Budokon, who literally was the horse before our number one horse Dessie shoes, number one, that day Ryan runs her horse and the two spot and then gets off and gets on dusty and run through for Dan it and made a beautiful run. Like it was flawless, really nice mayor. But, um, so that’s kinda where it started as we were like, well, what do we do?

Um, I was, so I was supposed to go home after Guthrie. I was supposed to go home and ride Colts and hit your ad back down to Texas with an owner of ours. Well, since Janet couldn’t walk very well and probably wouldn’t be able to set up the stalls or do anything like that by herself, we decided I probably needed this day. And, um, as we were trying to figure out what to do, she was talking about, you know, who she thought would be able to ride. The three we were taking to Fort Smith. Um, she’s got famous Jaguar who is really talented Colt, but he’s really fast. And it’s hard to get his timing on. We asked for an underground him and we had the shiny little red Corvette. Justin Anjell wrote him for it. And finally, the last one she’s like, well, Sarah, I think I’m just going to let you ride topper. Cause I don’t know anybody else to put on him.

Like your use of the horse. Yeah. Taking him through the barrels. I’m not really fast or anything. Um, but it was exciting. You know, I think a lot of us could say that in that situation, it would be super exciting to get asked to jump ride, but it was, it was, I was nervous because the great thing about Janet is she like had no qualms about it. She’s like, Oh, you’re going to do fine. I have complete faith in you that made it hard to be real nervous for someone to give you that courage to do well. But I was, you know, I was anticipating so exciting for Smith.

He was, and he’s a green coat. He’s a Colt that had, um, kissing spine surgery a little around the same time last year as right now. So he hadn’t been entered until March. So he’d only maybe made like seven competitive runs. And we were just hoping, you know, for the best. And when he ran, I think his first run was like a high, 17 to three horses out of making the bast 40 back to the finals. And we couldn’t have been prouder of him. And I was just glad I didn’t fall off. Oh, come on. Well, that’s actually kind of the nice thing is he said, you know, he’s only had like seven or so competitive runs. So I feel like the, just you and your expectations are going to be a bit lower because it’s like, you don’t know what to expect. Like you hope for the best. And obviously Janet had complete faith in you that you’re going to do your best and really showcase her horse. Well, and it’s just nice though. Cause yeah, like you didn’t fall off. So mission accomplished, like everything else is like a cherry on top. Like you didn’t really well considering everything that was going on. So it must have been such a cool experience. And it really wasn’t, you know, like, um, Janet, she made me cry like that day. Cause I’m an emotional person.

I walked him back to the stall after that first draft. And I was so proud of him. She came up from the stands in her golf cart. She wasnt walking very well, walked over to the, and she’s like, well, she’s like, you did a great job. And I was like, thank you. And she’s like, I hope that everyone has somebody in there that has that much faith in them. I truly believe that that encouragement and that faith that she has in me really has upped my mental game, ask a couple weeks, given me, you know, I’m not so dumb as to be completely invincible, but it’s giving me that feeling of invincibility, worried about anyone else. Because as long as Janet is happy and she knows I can do my job, that’s really all I care about. Exactly. But he came back in the constellation a time, a 17, Oh, I can’t remember exactly what it was, but it would have qualified in the first day we were out of it for the constellation round.

Cause that round is tough, but I couldn’t have been happier with him. It was such a unique, exciting, humbling experience. And you know, the biggest, I think the biggest win of the whole weekend was one just making Janet proud and to like all of the wonderful compliments I received from people who I’ve looked up to since I was a kid, that was pretty amazing. That is awesome. I’m so happy to hear that. And even like you said, like, you didn’t make it, but you improved and you can’t even be happier despite like, you know, the results might’ve not been like in the top or whatever, but still like your results were amazing, like all at the end of the day. And that’s such a cool experience that I’m glad, like you got to experience that I was a once in a lifetime kind of deal, but that’s how it’s kind of interesting.

Like just how the stars all aligned for that for you. Like if it sucks, but like if she didn’t hurt herself, all that wouldn’t have happened. Right. It’s like such a cool, unique like experience. So that actually brings me to something else. Like just you working in getting compliments and talking to people that you aspire to be like that is to me is such a big key to success is just, you know, obviously having mentors that are where you want to go and being connected with them and also just surrounding yourself with that level of competition, is it makes a huge difference on how you perform. And like when I was in the States going to the fizz bomb, it’s kind of interesting. It was a similar setup where the girl that was supposed to ride her Derby horse got hurt. And so I ran them all weekend and it was so cool.

We did, we placed like, I think 13th and the average, and it was just an insane experience because you’re competing against those people. And for me just being in Ontario, I’ve never competed against that level of competition, especially charity and Derby like that. So that in itself for me was just incredible to, you know, like have your standards so high because you’re competing against the best. So do you think that’s changed a lot for your writing? Just kind of comparing yourself to the best and knowing like it’s possible, you know, it’s funny. I think if you really break it down, you can’t so much compare yourself to the other trainers. Cause we all do it different that might have similar styles, but at the end of the day, we’re all unique. Just like the wishes are for sure. Yes. That being said, I think in anything you do in life, but especially like the futurity deal, if you’re not surrounded by peers who are also striving to improve their craft, striving to make better horses, to be better horseman, you know, to win more.

I think that you’re probably limiting yourself. I know for there was a time in my life when I was not as competitive when I was not really doing the horse deal and it was after my good mentor of mine passed away and I didn’t have anything, I got distanced myself and it definitely affected me and affected my ability as a competitor. And I would say even just because I loved it so much and I was so far away from it, it affected me just in general, you know, my level of happiness or what I love to do. So yes, like in all aspects, whether it’s, um, your competitiveness, your mental game, your actual writing ability. I think the more you can study the people who are better than you study with the winners, you’re doing ask some questions, talk with them, you know, sit with the winners.

Like people say, you’re definitely going to exponentially increase your ability to do well. Not for the long run. Totally. Yeah. Choosing your tribe and just having that group of people that are on the same mission, right? Like you’re on the same path, the same goal. And you’re like each other’s cheerleaders to some degree. And I liked that a lot. The one thing you said is just like, I’m like first just the learning aspect is like, it’s never ending. And also what you said is just the level of happiness. When your horse passed, then you’re just were like, unsure about what you’re doing. I feel that so much. And I think when you’re unhappy like that, or you just feel Discontentment because it’s life trying to nudge you in a direction, like it’s the discomfort that we’re able to move and train our lives. And like, I feel that sometimes, and obviously you felt that and you made a change because you’re like, you know, I’m not content with where I’m at.

And like, I’m sure if you asked yourself the same question back then, as you asked now about it, you’d have totally different answers because like you’re actually doing what you want giving it and going for it. I went back, even had a couple, like couple of years ago before I really started getting serious about studying under other people. I would have told you that there there’s no way I can’t make a living training horses. There’s no way I’m hoping I will be able to pay my bills at some point. I don’t expect to get rich by it by any means, but I don’t think that’s why any of us do it. Exactly. It’s not about the money. It’s about the horses and the awesome people that they bring into our lives. And that’s really, that’s really the biggest thing. I think if you think about it, that’s what I love.

Like, yeah. Like what you said about the comparing. I meant more like the state of like, like what’s possible for us. Like we see someone that we’re striving to be like, and we know they’re human, we’re human. If we really put our effort in, like, it is possible to do that. And for you, it is possible to do it. Like you don’t know when it’s exactly going to happen, but like you said, it’s like, we’re not there to make millions because it’s unrealistic. But like you said, like it’s the love and the passion and that’s where I think chorus people totally have it right. Is because they’re doing it. Not for the money they’re doing it to live the life that they actually want to. Then I just think that’s like a beautiful thing that people they’re okay with, that this is their mission. And it doesn’t matter.

The other thing too, like you mentioned, like the security girls and like watching them and, and aspiring to be like them, I’d really like to point out to, especially like for any like younger listeners, like all these young girls out there, these young girl racers and know, we all know that there’s always some kind of pettiness or drama going on. Typically it’s unavoidable. But the futurity girls, like when Janet got hurt this past week, so many people stepped up for us and helped. So many people stepped in and were like, what can I do for you? There was never any, you know, there was never any attitude or pettiness or anything like that, that sometimes today, unfortunately. And I think that not only are they excellent trainers and the horsemen on the back of scores, but a lot of them are excellent role models and just upstanding people with good hearts and they’re humble and they want to see each other when exactly that’s so important.

That’s what I was going to say. It’s like, they’re not thinking that the other person’s a com like their competition. It’s not like, Oh good. Like she hurt herself now. She’s not there. Like, that’s just so negative where it’s like, you, like there, they’re like on the same team to some degree. And that’s kind of one thing I thought about, it’s like, we’re all barrel racers. We all obviously love horses and love the sport and we’re here together. So it’s like, how can you be so negative towards someone that is literally in the same court as you? You know what I mean? Like it’s like, we’re all the same mission. So yeah. You and all your competition, like we’re all here. Like let’s have fun with our horses. Let’s enjoy it. And yeah, you do see the negative or the more sour people, but it’s like, no, one’s got time for that.

And I love that about the future. Do people, like you said, like they’re just stepping in to help each other, help each other get up. It’s important. Definitely. The whole, like choosing the people you’re around. And the one thing you said you do a lot is just the attending clinics and trying to extend your network. And like you, like, you got a job from joy because you went to a clinic, which I love that. Like, I just am like, I’m networker. Like if you network yourself and you just put yourself out there, like you opened so many opportunities that you have no idea even available or possible. So tell us a bit about like, just your experience going to some clinics that are completely irrelevant or like not barrel related, like you’re into like the horsemanship stuff. So how has that been in improving your writing?

Um, so two of my most favorite lines that I’ve been to probably recently, um, a couple of months ago, I got to go to fill how many horsemanship clinic that was a two day event. And that was awesome. Mainly because with bill, we were starting at square one with the building blocks that are all a part of the worst that we, most of us are probably used to riding after they’ve been put together. Right? So we took apart all those blocks and we said, this is what this one’s for. This is what this block does. This is how you manipulate this one to do this. And I won’t lie initially. Some of it I didn’t understand. And I think that’s because I had not broken it down to its simplest form. He would, you know, like we did a lot of them like yielding the hip.

And at the time, the very first day, I’m like, why are we doing this? I don’t want to disengage my horses. Why are you telling me to kick my hip? But then we applied it and emotion and my teaching to disengage, it’s it. You can teach it to move forward and carry itself up underneath itself at the same time, for sure. So it might not have been what I wanted to accomplish, but it was something I needed to learn to do in order to get to that last point. So I had a lot of experiences like that at Phil’s clinic and he was phenomenal. So I definitely encourage anybody to attend. One of those. I also really enjoyed when I was working with joy, her and transcend me to a Ron rolls clinic. Yeah. He was fantastic. Ron is really great. Um, because he breaks down the mechanics for almost like anyone to be able to understand.

And that’s a skill, we simplify it so much. Yes, definitely. Um, but, but really the takeaway from all of those horsemanship clinics is that half of the barrel races, like before you even start going through the pattern, and there’s a lot of stuff that those horses need to know about being broken their body and respecting your hands and your legs, and you knowing how to ask them with those things that they need to be able to do before you go to the pattern. Um, and I think that’s probably one of the biggest pieces of advice I’d give anybody is just make sure that your horse really, really knows his stuff and you know how to ask it. So where are you going to the pattern? How you’re influencing your horse. I wrote that down after watching a few of my, maybe not so good run.

And I’m like, thinking like, how could I change what happened? And I was just thinking like, how am I literally my body, what I’m doing when I’m running? Like, how am I influencing my horse? And the one thing as well as just how much our horses, our teachers, if we let it happen, like how much we actually can learn just from like a lot of, I think a lot of people start from maybe more trial and error approach and they take a few clinics and then they experiment to make it work for you because you can watch those people. And like you said earlier, everyone has their own style and it needs to make sense to them, but it needs to work for them in order. Like, and I think Ashley Shaffer said something. I read an article where she just said, basically you might follow a style, but you’re going to go back to your roots.

Like basically, meaning like no matter what you try, or if you watch and learn from someone you’re eventually going to fall back to you, how it works for you. So it is a lot of just, she has her horse riding as much as you can in different horses to learn what you, what works for you and just knowing like your own body and how it’s really changing your horse. And that’s the one thing, like, I think you said a bit before is just like learning from your horses and just, you know, like how important that is to really be listening. So is there anything you’ve kind of say about that? Definitely. You know, you talking about like the body control thing, it really is so important. And I did not realize just how important until I started working for joy. So those first couple of weeks I rode with her, I wanted to cry because I couldn’t grasp what she was trying to tell me to do and get my legs, like get my mom half and my top half to run at the same time to do the things I needed to do to be mechanically correct on the back of the words.

So that was a learning curve for me, but it was so important because it’s truly, it really has stepped up my feel of the animals when you’re sitting on them and being able to get your timing when you’re on their backs, especially, you know, at high rates of speed, that stuff is so important. Um, and I think the only way you can really teach yourself  to consistently spend hours in the saddle every day. And I know it’s hard for some girls, cause all of us to have access of 15 head a work. It was dried every day, but you joy always to ride your horse with intention every day. and soon as you step into the saddle, you need to have a game plan and ride with intention. We’d be aware of your body and the reactions you get. When you ask for something when you lay a leg, do they, or do they not move when you pick up a rein, do they pull on you or do they respect you and give you some kind of response? All those things are so important. And I think we can definitely all spend time, you know, being more mindful every time we get in a saddle or what exactly it is we ask for with our bodies because sometimes it’s as simple as a little bitty shift in your hips that will get a reaction out of one. You can learn those horses inside and out like that and what works for them, um, and be consistent with your writing. They will consistently improve and they will consistently perform in the arena.

Definitely. That’s so amazing. It’s so true. And so important that like you said, like all people just don’t even think of like a slight hip change or anything like that is going to make a difference and they don’t even feel themselves to it. So it’s like, if you don’t actually feel yourself, make that adjustment, how are you going to be consistent? And just the writing with intent is like mind blowing and so important. Like when you actually do that. And actually think when I put my foot in a stirrup, what are we going to do? And feeling yourself, yeah. Move your horse. Right. And it, yeah, like it takes a really long time, but just even with the whole like networking thing, I bet people, if they wanted 15 horses to ride or like just to get help it’s if you reached out to someone local and it’s like, they have lots of horses or they have training horses or whatever, be like, I’ll help you for a day. Like you don’t have to intern in relocate for life or for a year or half year. Like literally if they’re close, ask them and be like, I don’t mind coming your stalls, whatever.

And I’d like to ride a few horses and ride with you. And I’m sure people, if they know you’re willing and wanting to learn, I don’t think people have any problem helping, you know what I mean? I had a lot of people ask me like, Oh, like, how did you get that? Or what should I do? And maybe sacrificing some things you have now to go learn more so you can do better later, but people hold themselves back. Because the biggest first thing you can do is just walk up to someone and introduce yourself and say hi, I really would love to come ride with you. I’d really love to spend a day learning. I’ll come clean, your stalls, I’ll come groom your horses. I’ll do whatever you want me to do. If you’ll ride with me for an hour, it’s just like that. And you would be surprised how many of these girls, especially the futurity girls, that’d be like, yeah, come on.

They’re so barrier. Like, they’d be happy to have someone come out to their place. And like, yeah, people are scared of it. But honestly I think those girls really look at it as almost a privilege and an honor that people want to work with them and learn from them. It’s not intimidating. Like it is kind of intimidating, but I think it is mostly in your head of you’re putting those people on such a pedestal where it’s like a person, like a person, like, you know, if you just be yourself, be eager and obviously you are eager. If you’re going to take that step and it’s not going to go unnoticed. Exactly. I’ve told people a lot. Like you, you just have to go ask for one and consistently show up for them and yourself. Like whoever it is that you’re willing to go ride with, you know, make that relationship.

Now you want to go ride with Jolene Montgomery. Maybe she doesn’t need an intern right now. You should still reach out and make that connection example, ride with joy, reach out and make that connection, you know, show them that true serious show them that your intent is truly to learn and want to be part of a program that will teach them that you spend that time building those relationships. Generally they will grow. And the people who are brave like that, who will reach out to someone and be like, Hey, I’d really love to come ride with you. People who are genuine about those things, those girls will remember you. Oh, for sure. Yeah, exactly. And like what you said about showing up and even after you get the job, like where you get the intern, like don’t like, just give it your all, because like you said, like those things don’t go unnoticed. And that’s what I learned a lot is when I was it. And I like,

I try and show up as my best self and optimistic, eager, and just kind of be like, yes, I’ll do that. Yep. Yep. Okay. What’s next? Like, you know, hustle kind of thing. Like get going and just being ahead of the laws and that’s important with the horse industry. Like that’s what trainers want is they don’t want someone that takes initiative because they see something, they see an empty water bucket and they’re on it. They see something and they’re just like, okay, like we’re here. We’re part of the program. Like you said, and you do have to adapt pretty easily to someone else’s program, which like, there is that window of, you know, the transition of learning the horses, learning how to do stuff. But at once you have it down, it’s up to you to kind of maintain that and just really show yourself like the best self. And that’s when you know that connection might introduce you to someone else and it just snowballs. And before you know it, you have a network of amazing people.

Yeah. And that network is what will get you everywhere. You need to go. And it’s very true. You have to have the initiative for these kinds of deals. The internships are hard. Like I said, they’re hard on you mentally. They’re hard on you physically. Sometimes you have to learn not to take things personally to be mentally strong because even if they love you, there’s probably still going to be gays here. And there were things maybe don’t go fire, right? And you just have to be prepared to be your best every single day that you have to be a self starter. If you’re willing to go into that deal. And someone has to, you know, wait on you hand and foot. And someone has to tell you what to do every second of the day, the internship deals, probably not for you to be motivated. Self-starting you have to, like you said, be able to think ahead and be prepared for all situations and be on top of stuff. Because you know, when there’s 10, 15, 20 head of horses in the barn, there’s no time for errors and there’s really no room for mistakes. You know, horses that belong to people that were supposed to be caring for intense, intense, but at the end of the day, very, very rewarding. So it was for networking.

So worth it. And that’s the one thing as well, like the whole taking things personally and feeling, you know, like it is a mental obstacle to intern because you know, like you’re here. And then all of a sudden you intern, you’re like bottom of the totem pole. Like that’s what interns are known for across the board. Like in any business or any, any thing, interns are the bottom and you are putting yourself willingly in that position. So you kind of have to remember that, like I’m not here to be the top trainer right now. Like I’m learning from them. So yeah, I am at the bottom and just accepting life. Isn’t going to be rainbows and butterflies for a while, you know? And that’s part of the deal. Like you’re signing literally signing up for that. But at the same time, I’d like to say for anyone listening, that they’re interested in it or they’re doing it.

And like you said, at the beginning, which I can totally relate to is just knowing your worth still. And to be treated respectfully, no matter what, like, yeah, there might be hard days, but there’s still like, you’re still a human. And if you’re treated in dehumanize in your experience, that’s not okay. And it’s not. So like just knowing, knowing your own worth and your value, like you’re here to learn from people, but at the same time, like it can be a tough situation. And if you feel completely undervalued, it’s effecting your mental health a lot. And if you don’t see the light at the end of the tunnel from it, then maybe it is time it’s okay to move on and maybe try somewhere else.

Yes. I think it’s almost an unspoken thing in the horse industry. Just how draining internship deals can be sometimes. Cause I sure we have all heard there’s horror stories about how people get treated, you know? Um, I’ve been really fortunate. I’ve been really fortunate to always be treated, you know, pretty darn well. And um, but yes, like there’s absolutely no reason to stay somewhere that is unhealthy for your mental wellbeing or otherwise. Um, there are so many other opportunities out there, even if you think, even if you think where you’re at is where you need to be to learn the most, you know, don’t ever be afraid to leave and go to the next thing because it’s definitely not worth, you know, stressing over being heartbroken over because there are certain people you’re never, ever going to be able to make happy no matter what you do. Um, and that’s it life in general, I think you don’t have to, you don’t have to let it consume you. You can go on to the next thing for sure. Like you said,

Yeah, know your worth and if it’s not what you thinking are not there and you give it the time it deserves, but if it’s still is not changing, then yeah, just it’s okay to change and it might be scary and the unknown might not, might be scary, but it’s like relationships and all that. Like, is it better to be with something that, and how unhealthy or something different, right. Different is scary, but it’s just like, it is. I find interning. It changes a lot of your perspective just in life in general. So with that being said is why I think they’re amazing. And like, I salute you for sticking with it and staying with it for a really long time. And it’s been years that you’ve been doing it. So I just think that already in itself is like such an accomplishment. And just really like, it’s putting you down the path that you ultimately want to go down. So I gave you credit for that. Like it’s quite an accomplishment and yeah, people actually like have questions and stuff. I’m sure you’re happy to answer them.

Oh yeah. You know, it’s funny that you say that like Janet and I had a conversation last night, coming home from the jackpot, which was, I have to throw, I have to throw a plug for Janet. We were so excited. Her four year old, the one I ran for Smith, he won the jackpot last night. I saw that. I feel like he’s my little baby and he’s just being so good anyways. But you know, you mentioned this earlier, too. She went back to, you know, Sarah. Um, I was like, Janet, thank you so much for letting me enjoy him and ride him. You know? Like you don’t, you didn’t have to thank you for believing in me. And she’s like, well, she’s like, of course she said, you know, I told you, you she’s like, I knew you already knew it all. You just needed a chance to shine and look now you’ve gotten it.

I’m like, I know, but I didn’t want you to get hurt for it to happen. And she’s like, Oh Sarah. She’s like, everything happens for a reason. Satan is a phenomenal human being. And I’m very, very lucky to have her as a friend and mentor. Very, very blessed. But yes, hit me up on Facebook, Instagram country, all which the story behind that is it’s a mix of two marriage names that are no longer with me today. So I’ve just always a Marshall and country bullion or at control on, on Facebook, you know, message me or wherever, trying to think of that’s all. But I’ll like add all your details in the show notes. So when people look they’ll have like a quick link, if they have any questions or anything, they would ask you and follow your journey because it is quite remarkable. So I just want to say thanks again for joining me and talking about this. Cause it was a good one. I feel like we got lots out there that needs to be shared. So I thank you so much for doing this and accepting and thank you so much for letting me get on here and talk. And it’s so exciting, you know, to be on a podcast I’ve never been on one before and been great so far. And I know a lot of people are enjoying it. So I hope that everyone will get something valuable out of this to help them. Thanks again. Awesome things, lady.

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